So I thought that maybe people bred blind collies because with less light coming through the eyes, they thought the coat would grow more. I could be a hobo who is barely literate, it wouldn’t make what I’ve written any less accurate and your inability to point out a single flaw in the genetics means that you’re probably not much of a Vet at all. The predominantly white Dalmatians do not produce melanin at all in their white patches. If true, I’d like to know what the difference is, but it would take an awful lot to convince me that these dilutes are a good idea. Wow, so you can bite me, lol. Oh wait, no, you’ve just confirmed everything I said because that’s all you can say. But ALL of them (save the LUAs) have the genetics to be deaf, the genetics to be unsound in temperament, and have uric acidosis. Matheson, B. K., Branch, B.J., and Taylor, A. N. (1971). Says the reader who also has a list of accomplishments of similar math and science awards, who also had full-ride scholarships, who also graduated with high honors AND has a degree from a major university in ANIMAL SCIENCE with a minor in GENETICs, and emphasis on reproductive endocrinology and a DOCTORATE of Veterinary Medicine, and who has 25+ years of experience in clinical practice and 40+ years of Dalmatian experience. My breeding actually brought together two BCs from different registries, the ABCA and the AKC. Dalmatians do not appear on any of these reports as being aggressive and/or reported as being a “biting breed”. Scott is a past President, Vice President, Treasurer and Board member of the DCSNE for 19 years. A 35x ratio. Those of us who actually have an education can see so many flaws in the statements here that it defies reality. Tone. Dave recently posted..From Which He Flushed. Plenum, New York. problems. Erin: When it comes to horses the piebald gene and existence of the Lethal white stated to be quite common especially in the Paint. There is real sadness in my heart, feeling like I could have possibly saved her if I only knew this, then. Do they still look so unhealthy to you? Appl. Her mom was a good dog, as well. Hyperuricemia is a disease. Can you bring in anything you want after X generations of back crossing? The vast majority of cases (9+ in 10) are thought to be due to BEHAVIOR and not genetic predisposition. It only took 7 votes and an end run around the club to finally get an illegal vote to pass. Hint: A lot more health, sensory, and neurological torture of dogs by people breeding for pretty colors. I think your piece was short sighted. They form slightly more than the Yorkshire terrier. Sorry, I don’t CARE about the rest of your point. They say much of a dog’s personality lies in its genetics. I don’t see any justification for shitty Dalmatian temperaments secondary to coat color fetishes being justified by Dalmatian breeders. You’ve made some interesting comments. Forgive my questioning nature? They are purely aesthetic characters. Kruuk, H. (1972). Border Collie: 81.5%. Don’t ever chide me about stupid people. 1 x BIS Now again to the Dalmatians coat color. (1977). None of which were #1 Deaf, #2 Dangerously aggressive, #3 Have Poor eyesight, #4 Have Excessively heavy pigmentation(although three have Patches). Shyness, erratic behavior, and biting are NOT caused by “backyard breeders” who don’t care about temperament, they are caused by ALL Dalmatian breeders who care more about the unique coat than they do temperament. Reading your replies to everyone on this page confirms the fact that you’re unable to treat ANYONE with respect. After that I met a brown with a good temperament, I don’t know what his health history was though. It is an over stated submission response, but its not in that form, a snarl. Ethology 75, 85-108. Socialitet = sociality (3.4) After this, ” Tell your pup to ‘find it!’ and they will run to the toy”. And what little brown school house did you flunk out of in the 4th grade? Griffin, D. (1994). The only counter-evidence to this claim would be (1) if there were Dalmatian breeders who wanted to preserve whatever else it means to be a Dalmatian but would accept more common coat colors in the breed and introduce those colors through outcrossing. Those are ALL traits that some human thought looked nice, like spots and white coats, that cause a problem with health. Another in the archives might give you insight is “Academic Fraud in The Toller Research” . 1, 146-152. (Those that carry two copies for the low uric acid gene) Others are LUA but still carry a copy of the recessive HUA gene. It’s a form of severe submissive behavior and that is NOT a safe thing in any breed. Funny, for all your supposed experience you comment anonymously and can’t find fault with anything I’ve written. Dallys can be guard dogs, and I can tell you. We don’t have animal-welfare legislation even remotely close to these in North America. Breeds Over 60 Pounds 1. Obviously, this does not mean that every Dalmatian is a good dog, simply the ones I have known/known of. Owners who want to use these methods to train a dog should seek out instructors who are well-versed in the techniques. So breed purity means almost nothing to me. It has nothing to do with the dogs being bred in a puppy mill or a mansion. And no, anyone who breeds a purebred dog is not torturing their animals with malgenics all in the name of racial purity. Squinting at the sunlight is not life threatening and it does not impact their lives immensely. This might be simply because they don’t realize how to train their australian shepherds in the first place. Fentress,J. However breeders should be asking themselves: “would Christopher even be blogging about the issue if the concerns about Dalmatians wasn’t a wide-spread concern in the media?” One simply cannot erase years of bad exposure of being labelled “dangerous” or “aggressive” in the news without cracking down. LOL Chris technical or biological Terriorman agrees 51 percent. And that’s JUST the white related problems. She’ll lay on her back and expose her tummy to me one minute and then snap at me the next if I try to stop her from assaulting the other dogs. She did ultimately go into another breed. And tell me, KS, why does the CHIC program for Dalmatians NOT include a health test for Uric Acidosis? And these are dogs where there are no tests of any kind that have predictive power. But Pam, you can’t blame the dogs for poor temperaments when they literally have a mental disorder caused by funky brain chemistry. I’ll miss that dog forever. That’s being nasty and it’s a rather tired logical fallacy. “Egenskapsvärden” [trans. For the rest of you, I’m sure you’ll be horrified with what passes as ethical in Great Dane breeder circles like our friend Leah and her family support and participate in: http://www.border-wars.com/category/dogs/great-danes. Dachshunds come in 15 different colors and have 6 different markings. Effects of enriched and restricted early environments on learning ability of bright and dull rats. The first author has observed possible signs of overselection for depigmentation in high-producing, commercially bred hybrid pigs. LMAO, “health testing” You clearly missed my most recent post where I talk all about the disease testing in Border Collies: http://www.border-wars.com/2013/05/health-testing-in-dogs-is-limited.html. My dogs have participated in every active BC study going and a few all breed studies as well. Fine. Never snipped at anyone and got along with other dogs for the most part. What dog breeders are saying when they start in about purity, whether it is LUA Dals or Iranian Salukis with funky colors, is that they are too damned stupid to read a pedigree and avoid those lines. Once again: I don’t breed them, I merely If you want to pat them on the back because they finally relented after 38 years, GOOD. Yes. I’m not trying to get you to ‘shut up’ by mentioning border collies, more trying to get you to identify with the fact that singling out one breed over all others (in this post) is very short-sighted. Interesting postulations. Watson, J. It ain’t Egyptian: I actually own two ‘ancient’ breeds (ancient as defined by having more basal DNA than most other modern breeds) and even I will not admit nor promote the idea that our modern Salukis and Afghans are directly descended in an unbroken line from the dogs painted on the walls of Egpytian tombs. The male was the dangerous one I mentioned. 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